Throwing away the Yes paste

by brae  

Yes paste is a big No for me now.  I'm not sure where I read about Yes! paste being used for dollhouse wallpaper, but I wish I had never seen it.  It has failed in every dollhouse I've made where it was used.  :[

You saw my repair in the Haunted Heritage.  There are other places in the Heritage where the paper has separated, but it is not noticeable.  It also works because it is meant to be an old house.

Before:

After:

The same is true for Baslow Ranch; it's an old building so wallpaper ripples are no issue.  There is only one room with paper and while it has separate some, the gap isn't noticeable and it's not rippled just loose.

In The Artist's Studio, however, it is very obvious and a repair on this blank wall will require removal of the old paper and redoing it using Wallpaper Mucilage.  I'll head to the art store soon to get some replacement paper.  What's bothersome is this is a very recent build and the paste failed that soon.

The worst of them is the Baxter Pointe Villa kitchen.  This is what it used to look like.

Now it is a couple of years old and most of the paper throughout remains intact.  Except around the kitchen...including the walls, ceiling paper and part of the wall above in the bathroom.  The bathroom repair will be easy - just slip some new, better glue under the edge and clamp.

I did a complete demo on the kitchen since the whole thing needs to be redone.  I am planning to list this house for sale, so it needs a kitchen redo first.  Scary, no?  :O  Well, silver lining is I'll get a feel for whether or not I like to do rehabs in mini.  :D

The primer paint is completely desiccated and crumbling.

Maybe that is the issue with Yes paste - it doesn't bind well to painted surfaces.  Either way, it's already in the trash can.  Buh-bye, Yes paste.

Well, I guess if I am going to renovate, I should have some fun with the photos.  haaaaaaaaaaa!

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Baxter Pointe Villa is closed for repairs.  :D

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Update: here is the product I use now...Wallpaper Mucilage.

24 comments

Comment from: Blondie [Visitor]
Holy crap!
12/28/13 @ 13:43
Comment from: 12Create [Visitor]
That is scary, especially as I have been using Yes Paste in the last year. So far it has held well but obviously over time it fails. I will have to have a rethink about what I use.
12/28/13 @ 13:51
Comment from: April [Visitor]
arrhhhh noooooo! That was really bad :( I can't believe the horrid reaction to the primer
12/28/13 @ 13:59
Comment from: Debora [Visitor]
Crushing to see this! Must admit I love the last photo :)
12/28/13 @ 14:14
Comment from: Susan Wener [Visitor]
Gosh… I've been using that paste for years for doll house wallpaper and I have never had a problem like that. Mmm… makes me wonder if there has been a formula change? Or something that happened with that jar of Yes? I know when Tacky glue is frozen, the polymers get all messed up but I do not know the actual contents of Yes Glue. Research time.
12/28/13 @ 14:20
Comment from: brae [Member]
Susan - I would agree but I've gone through two different jars in the time I've been using it. If one was just a bad batch, I would suspect that some houses would be fine and others not. :no:
12/28/13 @ 14:23
Comment from: Susan Wener [Visitor]
Maybe I have just been lucky but I haven't pasted to painted surfaces, as far as I recall. :-(
12/28/13 @ 16:01
Comment from: brae [Member]
It's a catch-22, I guess. You have to prime or seal wood otherwise it will discolor the papers over time. But, Yes didn't work with the primer. Ah, well...now I know.
12/28/13 @ 16:10
Comment from: Jeannette [Visitor]
Sadly I have had the same problem in the Newport. I've had to replace the paper in the guest room and I think the den will have to be redone too. I was lucky enough to find the same paper though, so it all worked out. :o)
12/28/13 @ 17:11
Comment from: Lucille [Visitor]
How maddening! Lot's of work ahead for you!
12/28/13 @ 17:51
Comment from: Neen [Visitor]
I used "Yes" once and it wouldn't stay stuck. This could be because I pre-paint all wood to prevent warping in the humid climate I live in (the paste also could have failed because of the humidity). At any rate, I prefer to use putty to hold the wallpaper up since that gives me the freedom to change it easily (and I use heavy scrapbook paper as wallpaper). I am very interested to learn how you removed the wallpaper. I have several vintage Keystone dollhouses where prior owners have used contact paper or wallpaper and I want to restore the houses.
12/28/13 @ 18:06
Comment from: Casey [Visitor]
Brae, I am with Susan. I have been using yes glue for around 25 years and have never had a problem. It is a bookbinders glue and is archival. It is meant to be used with porus surfaces. Maybe one of your problems is the sealers. It probably can't grab onto the slick surface. Also, it sounds like you are using a lot of it. You don't need a thick coat. In your kitchen, it definitely looks like your base coat is the problem. Don't forget that it can be thinned down with just a few drops of water for a thinner coat. I used it for restoration work at the museum with no problems. That work is still fine after a lot of years. If it is used correctly, it is a wonderful glue. Not a paste.
12/28/13 @ 21:43
Comment from: elizabeth s [Visitor]
Arrrgggh! This is just AWful! I love all of those houses and to have them loosing there grip on the wallpapers is Unbelievable! I am so sorry that this has happened Brae! Once in a while this scenario will present its ugly head but for it to strike everyone of your mini masterpieces is UNACCEPTABLE! Have you contacted the manufacturer to let them know what is happening to your Art?
12/28/13 @ 22:01
Comment from: Anna K. [Visitor]
Yikes, Brae! That is terrible. You must be very frustrated! (I couldn't find Yes paste or wallpaper mucilage where I live, so I've been using regular white glue and so far, I've had no ripples, wrinkles, or peeling at all. I do paste wallpaper onto Bristol board and apply the glue to the board, which might be the reason for my good luck...) By the way, a tip on wood warping: professional carpenters say that wood takes a few days to acclimate to the moisture level of its surroundings, which might explain why I had some issues when I moved a half-built project inside from a cold, damp garage. Now I let everything sit in my workroom for a week before cutting!
12/29/13 @ 01:42
Comment from: Mad for Mod [Visitor]
Ugh! What a mess. Luckily I haven't had any problems with yes paste, however I have been putting it directly on the wood without any primer. I hope the new stuff works better for you!
12/29/13 @ 09:57
Comment from: Evelyne [Visitor]
I feel you pain!... :( @ Anne K: if you can't find Mucilage, the best option is scrapbook or decoupage glue. That's because it's acid-free. Regular (white) glue is very acid and tends to discolor paper after some time. (ask me how I know, lol)
12/29/13 @ 20:42
Comment from: Jenna [Visitor]
Hi Brae, I didn't have luck with Yes glue either. I just use Mod Podge now. I put it on with a sponge brush and stick the wallpaper to it.. It works really well. My dollhouse is over a year old now and I have had no problems. It doesn't really have any bumps at all. Plus if you want a shiny surface and extra protection, you can put it on top of the wallpaper. I did that once. It wasn't the look I was going for, but it was more durable than normal. Jenna
12/30/13 @ 16:28
Comment from: Nancy [Visitor]
OMG...just used Yes Paste on my townhouse (1st miniature project) because our only miniature store closed in Las Vegas & I ran out of the wallpaper paste purchased there. I apply to the paper, not the wall. Since air is very, very dry I've been concerned any paste will hold .
12/31/13 @ 08:41
Comment from: brae [Member]
I'm glad that Yes works for some, but I just won't risk using going forward. Whether it's the primer I use or the climate I live in, it's just not worth it.
01/07/14 @ 10:38
Comment from: Sarah [Visitor]
That is infuriating for you! And the rooms were perfect too, and such a tiresome job to fix too. I don't remember the brand, but when I was a kid, I used standard wallpaper paste, to redecorate the floors and walls in my hardboard dollshouse, I didn't prime the walls, and 15 years later, and a good few years of that time in an attic with a hot, cold, damp and dry atmosphere, the wallpaper was still flat with no bubbles, and just peeling around the edges slightly, well it had been in the attic, and the floors had warped, and still that paper was well stuck on :D The only discolouring was were the copper tape was ( I didn't cover them with tape, lesson learned, never use copper tape :D ) P.s. the renovation photos are cool though!
01/08/14 @ 05:56
Comment from: Bre [Visitor]
I was just asking everyone in another forum if they were having this issue with the Yes paste!! Two of my houses have the wallpapers lifting already. I am so disappointed!! Please let me know what you recommend. I've acquired wallpaper paste from Home Depot, but I haven't tried it yet.
03/16/15 @ 13:34
Comment from: brae [Member]
So sorry I hadn't updated this post with a link to the new stuff. I fixed it! :>> http://www.otterine.com/blog/blog1.php/wallpaper-mucilage-i-love-you
03/16/15 @ 13:47
Comment from: wendy lochmann [Visitor]  
I papered my dollhouse months ago. I bought high quality paper, and I used wallpaper mucilage. I have a 7 room house, and felt pleased with the results. There were one or two places where I noticed a bubble, and I used a pin and tried what people suggest (and that did not work -I still noticed the bubble). Today it is humid. It has rained since yesterday, and it is damp feeling. All the wallpaper mucilage has become wet! My paper in EVERY room is tacky and bubbling all over. I just installed baseboards, and was working on crown molding. I am sick. It looks terrible, and I don't think it can be repaired. The baseboards were to give myself a project during COVID 19. My windows are open in my actual house because it is only in the 70s here (Illinois). I would not have known this would be so sensitive to moisture. My bathroom paper was so sweet. It was white with tiny ovals containing roses. The glue is nwt bleeding through! I would not recommend wallpaper mucilage! It reactivates or something? I am ready to throw my house out a window. It took a long time to coordinate papers, and I have fashioned matching window treatments for some rooms, bought rugs, some furniture.
05/17/20 @ 15:18
Comment from: brae [Member]
I've never gone back to Yes Paste because it failed for me so many times. I've not had any problems with MiniGraphics Wallpaper Mucilage in the years since. As with any product, I'm sure different people will have different results. I know how heartbreaking it is to have something fail, as the Yes Paste did for me.
05/17/20 @ 15:45


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